How is it that the richest and most powerful country in the world can’t provide even the most basic of human needs for its citizens? What has been holding America back when much poorer countries are able to provide a more stable social safety net? Heather McGhee, one of our most thoughtful economic and policy thinkers has a new book out explaining that racism — specifically the fear by white Americans that any gains by Black Americans come at their expense — has reliably turned the majority of white Americans AGAINST government programs that would help all Americans for fear that it would be beneficial to people of color. She joins Michael to discuss what we can do to overcome this decades-long propaganda campaign that has afflicted white America, and how the idea of a “solidarity dividend” can unite a multi-racial, cross-class coalition to take on concentrated wealth and power and build a better country.


Read Heather’s book: The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together

Watch Raoul Peck’s “Exterminate All The Brutes” – Peck will be on Rumble on Friday, May 28

Music in episode:
“If I Ruled The World” – MILCK

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